How can it be that a well-connected Irish bookbinder with a wife and seven daughters, and who worked for decades in the Victorian city of Cork just disappears in every historical record that could tell you who he is.
No birth, death or burial records denotes the start and end of James Journeaux’s life: if it wasn’t for social records and the existence of his children and widow, then it seems he never existed.
Yet he is my three x times great grandfather, his surname is carried down in the paternal line of my family history and I can literally hold in my hand a book he bound in 1834 in Cork, Ireland.
In a world-wide search, only six books bound by Journeaux and containing his binder’s mark have been located to date and which give some clues as to the years and places Journeaux was employed in bookbinding:
- De Burca Rare Books recently sold an 1835 publication bound by Journeaux and bearing his binder’s mark: titled ‘Slavery’ it is a formative anti-slavery message by author, moralist, and theologian William Channing (1780 – 1842),a leading United States preacher.
Channing was a leading influence of religious and social life of New England, and America in the nineteenth century, but has been described as a ‘romantic racist’ who took a middle position on slavery and abolition.
2. I was fortunate enough recently to find in a Dublin bookshop a small publication bound by James Journeaux probably about 1835, the work being published the year before.
Titled The Last Days of Pompeii. the work was written in 1834 by Edward George E. Bulwer-Lytton ( 1st Baron Lytton) and published in Paris by Baudry’s European Library.
Its fly cover is signed 1836 by ‘Rev Dr Murphy’ – possibly the 1814 – 1847 Cork bishop Most Rev John Murphy (1772 -1847). As a 15 year old Murphy went to Parish to commence his studies for the Priesthood but revolutionary unrest forced him home to Ireland’. ‘By 1820 he was a landlord, owning 46 of 48 houses in Skey’s Lane; he was a noted bibliophile and he was all heart for the poor’. 114 of Murphy’s Gaelic manuscripts collected between 1816 – 1819 were bequeathed to St Patrick’s College, Maynooth in 1848, following the Bishop’s death the previous year.
Subsequent owners of this book included T.J O’Donohue and T.E Meagher. The binder’s label (front pastedowns, top left corner) is J. Journeaux, Bookbinder, Cork (black on green).
3. The Thomas Fisher Rare Books Library in Toronto, Canada also has one of Journeaux’s bound works: titled – ‘Onginus, act 1st Century’ the work was published in 1713 in London.
The binding date is unknown but the binder’s label shows ‘Journeaux, Book-Binder, Cork’ and as we know James was operating in Cork c 1832 – 1856 then it is likely Onginus was bound in those years.
4. The online site NationalBookAuctions.Com sold in recent years a four-volume works bearing ‘a tiny sticker of Journeaux Book-binders in the upper outside corner on the front flyleaves’ , with a publishing date of 1798.
Titled ’Memoirs, Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, Written in French by the Abbe Barruel, and Translated into English by the Hon. Robert Clifford, F.R.S & A.S this book was published in 1798, with this volume being printed in London by T. Burton for Robert Clifford (sold by E.Booker).
The Abbe Augustin Barruel was a French publicist and Jesuit priest ‘mostly known for setting forth the conspiracy theory involving the Bavarian Illuminati and the Jacobins in his work, which was originally published 1797 as ‘Memoires pour server a l’histoire du jacobinisme’, where he suggests the French Revolution was planned and executed by secret societies.’
5. Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland also holds a book bound by ‘J. Journeaux of Cork’:
‘The constitution of England; or, An account of the English government, in which it is compared both with the republican form of government and the other monarchies in Europe’ was written by Jean Louis de Lolme (1740 – 1806), and published in 1821 by Baldwin and Co, London, R Griffin and Co., Glasgow and J. Carfrae of Edinburgh (this particular edition was printed in Edinburgh by J Ruthven and Sons).
This De Lolme work is ‘Bound in contemporary half black calf, spine divided into five compartments; gold tooled, one with title, and rest with central harp tool; marbled boards and sprinkled edges; with ticket: J. Journeaux, Book Binder, Cork’. source: Trinity College, Dublin, Trinity College Catalogue ref OLS BIND B 5.
6. The British Library’s Database of Bookbindings references an 1841 publication titled ‘Charles O’Malley, The Irish Dragoon’ which also carries Journeaux’s bookbinder’s mark: the two-volume Irish work was writted by Dublin-born Charles James Lever (1806-1872) and published by W. Curry Jnr & Co.
Lever was a similar age to James Journeaux: he was born in 1806 the second son of James Lever (a Dublin architect and builder) and Charles went to be educated in private schools. His escapades at Trinity College, Dublin (1823–1828), where he took the degree in medicine in 1831, are drawn on for the plots of some of his novels.
At the time James Journeaux was setting up bookbinding press on Sullivan’s Quay in Cork (1833) Lever was newly married and began publishing his successful ‘Confessions of Harry Lorrequer’ – ‘a string of Irish and other stories good, bad and indifferent, but mostly rollicking, and Lever, who strung together his anecdotes late at night after the serious business of the day was done, was astonished at its success. “If this sort of thing amuses them, I can go on forever.”
Lever next went to Brussels to continue his successful writing and in 1842 he returned to Dublin to edit the Dublin University Magazine; ‘here he gathered round a typical coterie of Irish wits…such as the O’Sullivans, Archer Butler, W Carleton, Sir William Wilde, Canon Hayman, DF McCarthy, McGlashan, Dr Kencaly and many others.’
Four years later Lever returned to Brussels, but the curious question is why would James Journeaux publish a book by Lever who could have his pick of bookbinders in Dublin: Were they compatriots, comrades, schoolmates? Was Lever doing a struggling mate a favour?
The Bookbinding Database suggests Journeaux the bookbinder was possibly a man of that name in Paris in the 1840’s, however that has now been discounted by Morgane Milhat of SINDBAD, Departmement de l’Orientation et de la Recherche bibliographique,Bibliotheque nationale de France (2017):
‘I have searched several specialized dictionaries for bookbinders without success: Ramsden’s (p.111) stated only “(Paris) Journeaux. Firstly, worked at St-Jean-de-Beauvais, 29 in 1842, from whence he moved in 1849 to Bernardins, 34.’ Further…’ James’ Journeaux is not mentioned in Ramsdens under the locality of Cork’.
‘In Julien Flety (1845) I found a mention of ‘Journaux relieur, 34 rue des Bernadins a Paris. Exercait vers le milieu du XIX siècle, but…. the spelling (Journaux) is different here.’
From his research Monsieur Milhat believes past researchers made an honest mistake, that they viewed a flawed source which contained a spelling mistake and then used that error to assume ‘Journeaux’ the 1842 binder of Charles O’Malley was the same ‘Journaux’ mentioned in French street directories.
‘In searching Paris street directories 1838 – 1856 only one year (1845) shows a “Journeaux, St-Jean-de-Beauvais, 29’ under a section titled ‘Relieurs’ (Bookbinders). However, that section title in the following years’ directories show the entry changed to “Journeaux relieur”.
Monsiuer Milhat also consulted dit Annuaire Didot-Bottin 1857 – 1908 (available on Gallica 1857 – 1864) but could not find any reference to anyone of the surname Journeaux as a bookbinder in France, though there were several people of that surname of other occupations. Nor could he find any bookbinder who lived at the address in 1834 which was given by Ramsden as ‘Bernardins,34’.
‘I searched for a possible death for James Journeaux in Paris’ wrote Monsieur Milhat (2017) …’including through the reconstituted civil registry but I couldn’t find anything on Journeaux’. He explains the original registries were burned in 1871 during the insurrectionist movement of the Commune, so the ‘reconstituted’ registry is only about one third of the pre-1860 era and is thus not sufficient proof of all deaths in the region in that time frame’.
“In conclusion, we can’t be sure whether your ancestor came to Paris, but the mention of ‘Journeaux’ in Ramsden could be the result of a misspelling contained in the Annuaire general du commerce’.
So it seems, that in the 20th century an English person researching the binder of a book which was bound about 1842 – 1846 (in Ireland!) went searching, backwards, in 19th century French street directories. And having mis-chanced upon an uncommon (but not rare!) publishing error in Paris street directories showing a ‘Journeaux’ of Paris, it was assumed (reasonably) this was a person – rather than a category (Journaux). Maybe a big of foot-slogging in directories either side of that year might have revealed the error. It’s a cautionary tale for all researchers, but also a forgivable error, for it is only the modern-day internet that gives us such instant and broad research access.
When Journeaux’s fourth daughter Ellen – (named after her spinister aunt Ellen O’Connor) married in Ballarat (Victoria, Australia) in 1863 she stated she was the daughter of ‘James Journeaux, Cork’.
And when Journeaux’s wife Mary Ann (nee O’Connor) died in 1874 at her sister’s residence at 10 Nile Street, Cork, her death certificate states she was a ‘widow’ (the informant being one of her daughters).
So it has been initially assumed that James Journeaux died in Cork somewhere between 1863 – 1874, and yet an extensive search of death records in Cork and Ireland has failed to yield any information about his death.
But oddly, there is no references found for him post 1848 in newspapers of the era (he should have at least some business advertisements). And as his wife and some of his daughters were living with his sister- in- law Miss Ellen O’Connor of 10 Nile street Cork, and a further three daughters migrated to Australia between 1856 – 1860 it begs the question if there was a seismic shift in Journeaux’s life in the 1850’s and did he remain in Cork.
A Report from The Committeee on Fictitious Votes in Ireland (17 volumes, 15 Nov. 1837 – 16 Aug. 1838, this source Vol.XIII, Part 1) reveals James Journeaux was first practicing as a bookbinder in Cork in 1832, operating out of a house and shop on Sullivan’s Quay.
This year is significant as Edward Journeaux of Dublin (James’ possible father) departed for Canada around this time, having ran into financial troubles for the second time in less than a decade. Some of Edward’s children had married and so initially remained in Dublin, with the rest migrating to Melbourne in Canada. So it is probable that James set up as a bookbinder in Cork rather than migrate with his family to Canada.
According to one of Edward’s descendants, he did have a son named James, of whom nothing is known.
Thus it is possible that James Journeaux is the son of Edward Journeaux of Canada (formerly of Dublin, Carlow and Waterford but who was born St Helier, Jersey, Channel Isles). And if so then James is the grandson of Francois Journeaux of St Helier, a solicitor and judge who died in 1800 and his wife Jeanne-Therese Pradie (Desnard). All of the Journeaux’s in this family in St Helier were first christened in a Huguenot chapel and then later in the English church (a common move to secure inheritances, in compliance with English laws).
Four years after setting up his bookbinding business James Journeaux married to Mary Ann O’Connor (1806 – 1871) a native of Cork, and though all of their children were later christened in the roman catholic parish of St Peters and St Pauls, there is no marriage record there of James and Mary Ann.
In 1837 James Journeaux and a Sarah Lester acted as godparents to Thomas Lynch in the roman catholic parish of St Peters and St Pauls (in 1852 Sarah’s father Davies Lester lived next door to Journeaux).
About 1837 – 1838 James and Mary Ann Journeaux’s eldest daughter Margaret was born in Cork (no record of his baptism is recorded in the local church records that still exist either within the church archives or the later copies now in Government archives). Margaret Journeaux immigrated to Geelong (Victoria, Australia) in 1857, giving her occupation at the time of her arrival as Bookbinder. Margaret later married Andrew Davidson Mills, a bookbinder who operated in Geelong and later Ballarat and was awarded a prize at the 1862 Exhibition in Melbourne and which is now in the hands of descendants (who are also descendants of the artist Tom Humphrey and his wife Alice Journeaux Mills).
In 1839 Mary Ann Journeaux (nee O’Connor) is documented as a godparent in records of the catholic parish of St Peters and St Pauls, which was the primary church which the Journeaux family attended, it being both closest to their home and work place.
And it was also in 1839 that Ellen Journeaux was born, she being the ‘second eldest daughter’ and she was to follow her sister out to Australia (1859) living primarily at Ballarat where her eldest sister now also resided.
In 1840 James Journeaux, bookbinder was called before the Criminal Court in Cork to act as a witness in The Queen v McSweeney (Southern Reporter and Cork Commercial Courier, 19 Sep.1840). The case gives interesting insight into the politics of printing and bookbinding in Cork in the lead up to the Irish Famine.
McSweeny was charged with assaulted David Twomey on the 1st of August 1840: (Twomey was also a printer, employed at the Constitution newspaper office from Nov 1839 – Sep 1840 at least). The dispute was about printers undercutting each other and taking the job of competitors at a cheaper rate.
When asked if there was a ‘Society’ among the Printers of Cork Twomey instead stated he did not belong to any Society. He stated he was with a book-binder named Journeaux on the 1st of August about 11.30 at night when he encountered the accused in Bowling-green Alley (McSweeny and Journeaux’s home street at the time). McSweeney was walking ahead of Twomey and Journeaux but turned back to confront them. Journeaux asked Twomey ‘how long was it since McSweeny had ceased to speak to him’ whereupon the latter swore he would not be seen speaking to a ‘Rat’ (meaning Twomey). When the Judge asked Twomey the meaning of a ‘Rat’ meant he answered it meant a ‘Colt’. The judge patiently asked what was a ‘Colt’, whereupon Twomey replied ‘a man who works under wages, or who goes in place of another man’.
The confrontation devolved into a loud dispute with McSweeny accusing Twomey of undercutting and taking the job of a man at the Standard, and that there likewise two others at the Constitution. Twomey was clearly intimidated by McSweeny (who was described as a giant of a man) and acceded to quitting his scab job and joining the Society (union) of printers if others did as well. In the aftermath McSweeny pushed and then attempted to strike Twomey, Journeaux intervened and McSweeny went on home. The solicitor for the defense argued the charge of ‘Combination amongst printers’ which McSweeny was facing, was not borne out in what was merely a squabble, and that the whole matter was a waste of the Court’s time. However, the jury found McSweeny guilty of common assault and he was placed on a good behavior bond.
By 1842 James Journeaux was still residing at 7 Bowling Green street, Cork from where he continued to operates as a Bookbinder, competing with at least seven others of the same occupation (James Lee, Purcell and Son, Charles Runciman, Samuel B.Thompson, Cornelius Carver and James Gaffney). Source: 1842-1843 Jacksons County and City of Cork Postal Directory.
ON the 23rd of January 1842 his third daughter, Mary Journeaux was christened in the roman catholic parish of St Peters and St Pauls (Cork). She would marry in 1875 (after the death of her mother) to Charles Jones, an Englishman who committed suicide just a few months after their marriage.
On the 2nd of July 1843 his daughter Hannah Elizabeth Journeaux was also christened in the parish of St Peters and St Pauls. Known as ‘Ann’ she was my great great grandmother, who emigrated to Ballarat in Victoria via Melbourne, arriving in 1860 and eventually marrying Joseph Brayshaw. Her godmother was her aunt Ellen O’Connor, who remained a spinster, first running a huckster shop in Cork in t e 1850’s before setting up a small grocery business at 10 Nile Street, alongside the Cork Lying-in Hospital.
By 1845 James Journeaux was actively involved in the operations of St Pauls’ parish, being the Secretary that year (William Donovan was chairman). Source: Southern Reporters and Cork Commercial Courier, 6 May 1843.
The 1844 Slaters Directory of Cork shows Journeaux still living at 7 Bowling Green street and the 1845 ‘Aldwells General Post Office Directory for Cork’ gives him at the same address.
On the 19th April 1845 his daughter Jane Ann Journeaux was christened in the parish of St Peters and St Pauls, however there is no record in this register of the birth of a further daughter named Eliza Jane, who was born c 1846.
Then in 1846 Journeaux shifted his residence and workplace to the corner of Half-Moon and Paul Streets and expanded his occupation to ‘printer and bookbinder’ (Slater’s Cork Directory, 1846).
There were eleven others recorded in the directory who worked as printers, and eight as bookbinders and booksellers.
Over the next few years Journeaux’s address becomes the more official ’74 Paul Street’ in Cork, however his residence expanded across into Half-Moon street as well.
In 1852 Journeaux was leasing 74 Paul Street from William Deane, who also sat on committees in Dublin with James Amice Journeaux (an uncle of James Journeaux who was a successful businessman, merchant and community leader in Dublin). For clarity’s sake from hereon in James Amice Journeaux will be ‘James A.’ to distinguish him from James.
Griffiths Valuations for the parish of St Paul (Primary Valuation of Tenements) shows James Journeaux at the rate property of 74 Paul street, being a tenement of a house and yard with a new annual value of seven pounds.
C1849 – 1855 Elizabeth Journeaux was born, the youngest daughter of James and Mary Ann Journeaux. The 1856 Trade Directory of Cork shows James Journeaux as still living and working as a printer and bookbinder at 74 Paul Street.
Aside from an 1863 marriage notice referencing ‘James Journeaux, Cork’ as the father of Ellen Journeaux (who married in Ballarat to Sylvester Nevin), no information on James Journeaux has been found. His wife died in 1874 by which time she was a widow, and living with her sister Ellen O’Connor, along with at least two of her daughters (Mary and Elizabeth).
The Journeaux Family of St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
James’ grandparents were almost certainly Francois Journeaux of St Helier, Jersey who died in 1800 and Jean Therese Pradie, who had twelve children born at St Heliers. Four of these would migrate to Ireland (John about 1801, Edward c 1801 -1804, Margaret c 1804 and James Amice in 1817) with the rest either to Canada, Newfoundland or England, excepting their son Phillip who inherited his father’s legal practice upon request of his father via the Will.
The family were staunch Hugenouts though they also ensured their children were also christened in the English faith of St Heliers to secure inheritance rights. And two of Francis’ grandchildren (cousins – Francis son of Edward, and Mary Ann daughter of James A.) would later marry in Dublin to secure succession in family inheritances.
Upon his death, Francis Journeaux stipulated in his Will, his son Edward was to be put into business, his youngest son James Amice was to be put to study with someone who get him also into business, and another son Phillip to inherit all of his father’s legal papers and practice. His youngest daughter was to remain at home with and take care of her mother. The rest of Francois children were considered to be successfully on their own mean.
A further son – John Journeaux (uncle of James)– who had begun his career as a merchant trader – was considered ‘independent’ by his father Francis. He is the first to have migrated to Ireland, and is recorded in Cork as early as 1801 where he had set up a trading partnership on the waterfront ‘Mullowney and Journeaux’. He was still there in 1804 when his sister Margaret married William Abbott of Dublin. Then in 1807 John Journeaux and his wife Bridget Duggan had their son Edward christened in the roman catholic church in Cork. Nothing is known what became of this branch of the family after 1807.
Edward Journeaux (probable father of James) was the next to migrate from St Helier, opening up business on the water-front at Waterford where he ran a corn milling business. He married Mary Benjamin Morris (niece of the Mayor and High Sheriff of Waterford) who inherited a substantial property dowry upon the advent of her marriage.
Edward remained in Waterford & Leighlin Bridge, Carlow) where many of his children were born, until his brother James Amice Journeaux arrived in Dublin to set up business.
Initially the brothers Edward and James A Journeaux went into business together, but when Edward branched out in a failing business the two men financially separated in 1826. By this time James A. Journeaux had returned to St Helier to procure a bride – Henrietta Elligood Durell and upon his return to Dublin he signed up as a Freemason and launched himself into business and community services (Henrietta’s father was Charles Durell of 16 New Street, a property later acquired by Phillip Journeaux (son of Francios, uncle of James) as the family property, until his unexpected bankruptcy in 1850).
James A Journeaux did have a son named James, but who died at a young age. Only one of James’ sons survived to adulthood, Charles Durell Journeaux but he died in his early 20’s.
Edward and his wife had a much larger family and had buried two daughters at Waterford before moving to Dublin. After getting into financial difficulty again in 1832, Edward moved most of his family to Melbourne, in Canada where the family fortunes were restored when his new son-in-law acceded to the title of Baron Aylmer.
In the same year James Journeaux set up business as a bookbinder in Cork.
There is a wealth of information that can be pieced together on the life and times of the Journeaux family of St Helier, Jersey and yet after 1856 not a word can be found on James Journeaux.
His (probable) older brother Francis Journeaux who had been running a successful business at Arran Quay died unexpectedly in 1859 and his father Edward Journeaux likewise died in Canada. Finally his uncle James Amice Journeaux died in Dublin in 1866, virtually wiping out the male administrators of the family business’ in Ireland.
His (probable) brother William, a timber merchant in England returned to Ireland to take over the running of the businesses, assisted soon after by a cousin Benjamin Journeaux, and later Cleeve family members who assumed the Journeaux surname.
And yet James Journeaux of Cork never figures in any family documents, especially the voluminous file kept by solicitors upon the death of Edward Journeaux, who had the difficult job of sorting out the inheritances associated with the Morris family and the dowry bestowed up Mary Benjamin Morris who married Edward Journeaux.
So what did become of James Journeaux the bookbinder of Cork. He is not the James Journeaux who migrated to Sydney in 1849: this is his slightly younger cousin of the same name, the son of Phillip Journeaux, solicitor, who inherited the family business on St Helier and who went unexpectedly bankrupt in 1850. Cousin James’ sudden departure for Sydney might have had something to do with the failure of the family firm: he lived a bachelor life in Sydney all his life and died at the George Street Asylum on the 20th May 1885, and was subsequently buried at Rokewood (some of Phillip’s descendants later migrated to New Zealand).
Some 33 cousins and 11 probable siblings, and yet nothing to be found of James Journeaux. By piecing together, the book binding history of James Journeaux and matching it to publishing dates it is hoped to locate his whereabouts after 1856.
Grandparents: Francois Journeaux (1745 – 1800), Judge Advocate, Surveillant of St Helier and Captain of St Helier Grenadier Batallion. Son of John Journeaux (1711 – ?) and Marguerite Remon (daughter of Francis Remon).
Married 21 August 1769 to Joanne (Jean) Pradie (1744 – 1831) the daughter of Jacques (Jas) Pradie and who was known as Jeanne Therese Pradie – Desarnaud.
- 1765 Marie (Mary) Journeaux, married 1787 St Helier, Jersey to Amice Balleyne. Died 1805 St Helier.
- 1772 Francois (Francis) Journeaux, married 1797 St Helier to Elizabeth Madeline Lempriere (1771 – 1851).
- Elizabeth Journeaux, b.1798, St Helier
- 1774 Jean (John) Journeaux migrated to Ireland c1800 ‘Mullowney & Journeaux’ of Cork: lived Cork c1801 – 1807 and married Bridget Duggan. 1 son known – Edmond, christened 1807 Cork.
- 1776 Phillipe Journeaux (inherited father’s legal practice, requested by father to become a Notary like his father). Married 1802 to Ann Elizabeth de St Croix (died 1865, Middlesex) and lived 16 New Street, St Helier, Jersey, died 1855 St Helier:
- Jane Winter Journeaux b.1804, died 1805 St Helier. Jersey
- Francois Journeaux, b 1805 St Helier, Jersey
- John Journeaux b 1807, died 1809 St Helier, Jersey
- William Journeaux, b.1808 St Helier
- Jean (John) Journeaux b.1809, St Helier died c1810
- James Journeaux b.1812, St Helier, died u.m Sydney New South Wales.
- Frederick Journeaux, b.1813, St Helier
- Ann Journeaux, b.1814, St Helier, married G.E. Evans
- Frederick Amice Journeaux, b.1818, died 1818 St Helier, Jersey.
- Jane Winter Journeaux, b.1820, married 1844. David Wilkie Raimbach ,St Helier.
- Harriett Journeaux, b.1821, married 1849 St Clements, Jersey to Thomas Emmerson Raimbach.
- 1777 Elizabeth Journeaux
- 1779 John Journeaux, died 1790 St Helier.
- 1780 Marguerite (Margaret) Journeaux – migrated to Ireland c1801 and married William Abbott, of Dublin. Probably her death 1829 at Rathmines, Dublin. Possible children:
- Margaret Abbott b.1822, died Jan 1823 Rathmines, Dublin.
- Elizabeth Abbott, b.1823, died 1832 Rathmines, Dublin
- William Creagh Abbott b.1828, buried 1833.
- 1784 Suzanne Journeaux, died 1787 St Helier.
- 1785 Edward Journeaux, migrated to Ireland c1801, merchant of Waterford, Carlow, Mount-Shannon and Dublin and later a J.P in Melbourne Canada where he died 1859. Married Benjamin Mary Morris (-1848) in 1804 at Waterford. Issue:
- Isabella Journeaux bc.1805, married 1833 Joseph Wright of Beech-hill, Dublin.
- Jane Theresa Journeaux b.1807,Leighlin Bridge, Carlow: married 1836 to Edward C. Sneider of London, at Melbourne, Canada.
- Margaret Journeaux b.1809, buried 1810 Leighlin Bridge, Carlow.
- Mary Eliza Journeaux b.1810 Leighlin Bridge: married 1841 Canada to Right Hon. Udolphus Lord Aylmer (1814 – 1901).
- Francis Journeaux, bc. 1811, died 1859 Dublin: married 1839 his cousin Mary Ann Journeaux (daughter of James Amice Journeaux).
- James Journeaux (bookbinder, of Cork?) bc1800-1816: married c1836 Mary Ann O’Connor in Cork.
- Edward Journeaux (jnr), b.1814, died 1895 Quebec, Canada: married Louisa Eliza French at Melbourne, Canada.
- William Journeaux, bc.1817, died 1905, Middlesex: married 1. Martha Miller and 2. Mary Ann Coggan.
- John Journeaux, b.1818 in Dublin, died 1825 2d Lock, Grand Canal, Dublin.
- Benjamin Journeaux, b.1821, died 1899 in Dublin. Married 1851 to Mary Evans dau of James Evans of Limk.
- Sophia Olivia Journeaux, b.1822, married 1843 to Edward Elms. Cleeve, resided Bellevue, Melbourne, Canada.
- James Amice Journeaux. Migrated to Ireland c 1817: Freemason, Merchant of Arran Quay and Pembroke Place, Dublin. Married 1818 to Henriette Elligood Durell of St Heliers. Died 1866 Dublin. Issue:
- Mary Ann Journeaux, married 1. 1839 to cousin Francis Journeaux of Rialto Lodge Dublin (son of Edward) and 2.1866 to John De Burgh Morris
- Teressa Journeaux b.1820, married 1840 to Christopher Lodge, Dublin and died 1899 Dublin.
- James Francis Journeaux, b.1823, died 1826, Dublin.
- Charles Durell Journeaux b.1830, died 1850 ‘only son of James Journeaux of Pembroke Rd’ at Torquay, Devon.
- Henrietta Anne Journeaux, bc 1826 ‘youngest daughter of J.A Journeaux of Pembroke Place’ married 1853 in Donnybrook, Ireland to George F. Wright and died 1886, Dublin south.
- Julia Hester Journeaux, born 1840, died in infancy?
- 1792 Jane Journeaux of St Helier. Married 1807 in St Lawrence, Jersey to Francis Payne.
- Ann Payne b.1808 St Lawrence, died c1808
- Jane Elizabeth Payne, b.1810, St Lawrence, married 1839 Thomas Harvey.
- Ann Payne, b.1811 St Lawrence,
- Francis Abbott Payne, b.1813, St Lawrence,
- Margaret Payne, b.1814, died 1814 St Lawrence
- Eliza Therese Payne, b.1815, St Lawrence
- Henrietta Payne, b.1817 St Lawrence
- Julia Ann Payne, b.1819 St Lawrence
- Mary Ann Payne. B.1822, St Lawrence
- Phillip Jourdain Payne, b.1825 St Lawrence
- Selina Payne, b.1826 St Lawrence
- William Payne, b.1828 St Lawrence
- Emily Rachel Payne bc.1831 St Lawrence